Comments on: In defense of douchery http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/ Independent Student Newspaper of the University of Virginia Sun, 12 Feb 2012 00:54:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1 By: CLAS'91http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-1498 CLAS'91 Fri, 09 Oct 2009 02:54:13 +0000 http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-1498 Wonderful lead editorial. Glad to see that satire still thrives. It would seem that not much has changed on grounds since I was there ... other than the absence of the pep band, the masters of satire in my day. Wonderful lead editorial. Glad to see that satire still thrives. It would seem that not much has changed on grounds since I was there … other than the absence of the pep band, the masters of satire in my day.

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]]> By: Lauren Phttp://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-1489 Lauren P Fri, 09 Oct 2009 00:54:17 +0000 http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-1489 I think this is an incredibly well written editorial. It reminds me of The Onion. Excellent job! I think this is an incredibly well written editorial. It reminds me of The Onion. Excellent job!

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]]> By: Rickyhttp://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-733 Ricky Fri, 25 Sep 2009 20:56:15 +0000 http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-733 To all of those UVa folks that say "one day you'll be working for me" I went to George Mason and now employ several UVA grads. To all of those UVa folks that say “one day you’ll be working for me” I went to George Mason and now employ several UVA grads.

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]]> By: Thomas Harkrader Pinehttp://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-489 Thomas Harkrader Pine Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:28:35 +0000 http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-489 This is an incredibly arrogant editorial (and I'm a proud alum). This is an incredibly arrogant editorial (and I’m a proud alum).

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]]> By: class of 200http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-449 class of 200 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 20:47:18 +0000 http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-449 Editor of GQ clearly a Hokie Editor of GQ clearly a Hokie

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]]> By: Studenthttp://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-378 Student Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:06:39 +0000 http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-378 UVA Grad '07 - I believe you're completely missing his point. If you're attempting to use UVA's reputation as some form of justification for unbridled and excessive elitism that permeates throughout our social culture, then you're simply feeding his assertion that a significant portion of our student body acts as though UVA isn't just a good school - it's some writ of entitlement that holds true everywhere under the sun. Clearly, this is not the case, and in a highly competitive and meritocratic outside world, the last thing people are going to care about when you're on the job and expected to produce serious results is what douchey title you held at "the university", fraternity or otherwise. I believe humility is a virtue that UVA is sincerely lacking, and the article in question has done a superb job of highlighting exactly how unfortunate that reality is. UVA Grad ’07 – I believe you’re completely missing his point. If you’re attempting to use UVA’s reputation as some form of justification for unbridled and excessive elitism that permeates throughout our social culture, then you’re simply feeding his assertion that a significant portion of our student body acts as though UVA isn’t just a good school – it’s some writ of entitlement that holds true everywhere under the sun. Clearly, this is not the case, and in a highly competitive and meritocratic outside world, the last thing people are going to care about when you’re on the job and expected to produce serious results is what douchey title you held at “the university”, fraternity or otherwise. I believe humility is a virtue that UVA is sincerely lacking, and the article in question has done a superb job of highlighting exactly how unfortunate that reality is.

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]]> By: Studenthttp://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-377 Student Wed, 23 Sep 2009 06:52:09 +0000 http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-377 Love the quip about social progress. Good thing UVA embraces tradition so much that we'll never have to worry about our social scene resembling anything more forward-thinking than the Indian caste system where the self-anointed elite refer to others as "peasants" or "irrelevant" - clearly a paragon of altruism and open-mindedness.I'm just thrilled for when many of them get to see what it's like to have a "peasant" rule them in the work place. Should be a fun contrast. Reality TV show possibly? Love the quip about social progress. Good thing UVA embraces tradition so much that we’ll never have to worry about our social scene resembling anything more forward-thinking than the Indian caste system where the self-anointed elite refer to others as “peasants” or “irrelevant” – clearly a paragon of altruism and open-mindedness.

I’m just thrilled for when many of them get to see what it’s like to have a “peasant” rule them in the work place. Should be a fun contrast. Reality TV show possibly?

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]]> By: UVA GRAD '07http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-371 UVA GRAD '07 Wed, 23 Sep 2009 04:53:14 +0000 http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-371 Laughing Townie, just needed to clarify your one point. I graduated from UVA with an economics major. Two months before graduation I started applying for jobs overseas. Two weeks later I got two offers: Boston Consulting Group London and IRS Switzerland. I had no connections to either, both said they were impressed by the standards UVA sets on their students and the passion for success and leadership most grads have. I don't believe either of those cities are in the ACC, or are they well-traveled-townie? Oh and one more thing: I went to high school in Austria, public school, all german speaking, and they actually suggested I look into UVA. I'm going on a limb here but I'm guessing that their judgment on this institution couldn't have come from anywhere else but the good reputation and knowledge that such a place would exist. So maybe some people in this country haven't heard of UVA, or will ever get the opportunity to, but a well traveled worldly person like you should have realized by now that there is a world outside the US and let me tell you, many have heard of UVA. Laughing Townie, just needed to clarify your one point. I graduated from UVA with an economics major. Two months before graduation I started applying for jobs overseas. Two weeks later I got two offers: Boston Consulting Group London and IRS Switzerland. I had no connections to either, both said they were impressed by the standards UVA sets on their students and the passion for success and leadership most grads have. I don’t believe either of those cities are in the ACC, or are they well-traveled-townie? Oh and one more thing: I went to high school in Austria, public school, all german speaking, and they actually suggested I look into UVA. I’m going on a limb here but I’m guessing that their judgment on this institution couldn’t have come from anywhere else but the good reputation and knowledge that such a place would exist. So maybe some people in this country haven’t heard of UVA, or will ever get the opportunity to, but a well traveled worldly person like you should have realized by now that there is a world outside the US and let me tell you, many have heard of UVA.

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]]> By: Kylehttp://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-368 Kyle Wed, 23 Sep 2009 03:13:49 +0000 http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-368 Article write just read "Satire: For Dummies" and went with it. Little wonder all the U.Va students and alumni are satiated. Article write just read “Satire: For Dummies” and went with it. Little wonder all the U.Va students and alumni are satiated.

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]]> By: Laughing Towniehttp://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-355 Laughing Townie Tue, 22 Sep 2009 20:22:17 +0000 http://www.cavalierdaily.com/2009/09/16/in-defense-of-douchery/#comment-355 This comment thread is almost as good as the column itself. I only came here because I know the guy who wrote it. A rare UVA non douche, as is about 20% of his colleagues. When we generalize, we obviously cannot include everyone. There are some really productive, friendly, hard working, volunteering, and smart UVA folks in town. No doubt. But I guess you just don't notice these people as much because they are such a minority - and the examples of shocking arrogance and stupidity stick in your mind much longer. The benches ripped from the walls out South Street. The shit on the mens room floor as they were being kicked out. The frat boy who stabbed a local firefighter to death on 14th. and Wertland -a nd got away with it thanks to - of course - daddy's money.I still have UVA undergrad/grad school/recent grad friends who by and large are just as embarrassed by their drunk/drugged/slutty/elitist/jobless/spoiled/violent counterparts. We all do. As someone who has welcomed 3 UVA women into my bed and had great relationships with them, I am nobody to say that you're all bad. It's called being decent, polite, and ethical people whatever your background or situation. "Playing well with others." Not choosing our friends based on looks and money and thinking we are so superior - based on NOTHING whatsoever. Again, I think the source of most of it is the fact that almost all of them were rejected by a real Ivy League school, they are still bitter, and this is how they deal with it. Silly, but true.Having lived lots of other places, I can tell you that NO ONE anywhere else will be impressed you went to UVA in any way, save UVA alumni. Just a heads up. Most people in country - especially outside the ACC - don't even know it exists. Most everyone has heard of VT - but that's just because they have a good football team. Sorry about that last line. Can't end with that. I'll be routing for our local 0-3 team after the bye week. Will you ? =o) This comment thread is almost as good as the column itself. I only came here because I know the guy who wrote it. A rare UVA non douche, as is about 20% of his colleagues. When we generalize, we obviously cannot include everyone. There are some really productive, friendly, hard working, volunteering, and smart UVA folks in town. No doubt. But I guess you just don’t notice these people as much because they are such a minority – and the examples of shocking arrogance and stupidity stick in your mind much longer. The benches ripped from the walls out South Street. The shit on the mens room floor as they were being kicked out. The frat boy who stabbed a local firefighter to death on 14th. and Wertland -a nd got away with it thanks to – of course – daddy’s money.

I still have UVA undergrad/grad school/recent grad friends who by and large are just as embarrassed by their drunk/drugged/slutty/elitist/jobless/spoiled/violent counterparts. We all do. As someone who has welcomed 3 UVA women into my bed and had great relationships with them, I am nobody to say that you’re all bad. It’s called being decent, polite, and ethical people whatever your background or situation. “Playing well with others.” Not choosing our friends based on looks and money and thinking we are so superior – based on NOTHING whatsoever. Again, I think the source of most of it is the fact that almost all of them were rejected by a real Ivy League school, they are still bitter, and this is how they deal with it. Silly, but true.

Having lived lots of other places, I can tell you that NO ONE anywhere else will be impressed you went to UVA in any way, save UVA alumni. Just a heads up. Most people in country – especially outside the ACC – don’t even know it exists. Most everyone has heard of VT – but that’s just because they have a good football team. Sorry about that last line. Can’t end with that. I’ll be routing for our local 0-3 team after the bye week. Will you ? =o)

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